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Episode Summary Penn and Moses kick things off (from separate locations) with Valentine’s Day around the corner—framing it less as a “couples-only holiday” and more as an excuse to show kindness to anyone (including handing out valentines to strangers). From there, the conversation turns serious: how to stay connected with people you love when you’re on opposite sides of politics and religion. Penn shares how painful it felt to hear her sister propose a new boundary—no politics, no religion—after a lifetime of being able to talk about anything. Moses offers a counterbalance: focus on in-person conversations, keep humor as a pressure-release valve (“street humor”), and remember that people often agree on the problem even if they disagree on the solution. They reflect on how social-media hostility amplifies division, and Penn points to a Grammys moment (Bad Bunny’s “approach with love instead of hatred” idea) as a north star for how to engage. They wrap with lighter updates: they’re heading to Playa del Carmen soon, they’ll be recording the next “just the two of us” episode from Mexico, and they shout out Evan Starnes and Blind Level Tech for making a real impact. They invite listeners to send feedback and join them on social media—and promise to post an old photo of Moses dressed as Cupid. Contact Info Listener feedback: feedback@aftersight.org (as stated in the episode)Aftersight (main line): (720) 712-8856Social: Search “The Blind Chick” on Facebook (Penn also mentions Instagram and TikTok)Show CreditsShow: The Blind Chick (An Aftersight Original Podcast)Hosts: Penn Street and Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan Price (Aftersight)Chapter Markers00:05 — Intro: Penn & Moses are back00:26 — Recording separately today00:45 — Valentine’s Day: love beyond romance01:33 — Grade-school valentines (and doing it again as adults)02:31 — “Real life” topics brought to listeners02:58 — Navigating political divides with people you love04:23 — Penn took a class on talking politics across disagreement05:03 — Moses on disagreement with his brother (Marco Polo)07:30 — “Street humor” as a safe-word for joking09:59 — Penn’s sister: deep bond, now opposite political aisle11:01 — The heartbreak: “no religion, no politics”13:18 — Why in-person political conversations work better15:35 — Penn: why this moment feels more harmful than “just policy differences”15:56 — Grammys moment: approaching issues with love vs hatred18:10 — Old rule: don’t talk religion/politics; and why it “worked”20:40 — Listener prompt: how do you keep relationships intact?23:49 — Mexico countdown begins25:12 — Story: walking away from politics in Mexico due to danger/stress27:22 — Playa del Carmen meetup: Scott Garrison connects them with his parents28:43 — Shoutout: Scott guiding blind hikers up a volcano in Guatemala30:57 — Penn’s stomach health issues; excited for Mexico food31:13 — Playa del Carmen then vs now36:31 — Next “just us” episode will be recorded from Mexico36:45 — Shoutout: Blind Level Tech and Evan Starnes39:10 — Kindness + feedback request39:36 — Social media plugs + Cupid photo promise40:16 — Sign-off (and joking about an “X rating” Cupid depiction)

1) Episode SummaryBethany Joy Boring joins Penn and Moses for a candid, funny, and deeply practical conversation about living with CHARGE syndrome, navigating combined vision + hearing loss, and the mindset shifts required to move from “proving yourself” to simply being yourself (as introduced in the recording you provided). Bethany shares her guide-dog journey (including the fear and stigma that delayed her cane use), how Toastmasters became her on-ramp to public speaking, and why she believes storytelling and community are essential to resilience. The episode also clarifies coaching vs. therapy (future-forward growth vs. past-rooted healing), introduces her “egg carton” approach to sharing your story safely, and closes with concrete ways listeners can practice gratitude and “step out and thrive.”2) Contact Info (guest/org + Aftersight + producer credits)Guest / BethanyStep Out & Thrive (official links hub, plus podcast + socials): “Interactive Appreciation Guide” (download page): Note: the official links hub uses the name “Bethany B. Joy.” AftersightThe Blind Chick (show page / show info): Listener feedback contact (email + phone): Low-Vision Support Group: Weekly Wednesdays at 2:00pm (MST), online via Zoom: Producer CreditProduced by Jonathan Price (Aftersight).3) Show CreditsPodcast: The Blind Chick (Aftersight Original) Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Producer: Jonathan Price4) Chapter Markers00:00 — Show open: “Blindness can be an adventure” 00:28 — Penn & Moses banter + New Year’s check-in (Jan 2026 mention) 02:46 — Bethany intro + “spy novel name” riff 05:09 — CHARGE syndrome explained (what it impacts) 07:08 — Hearing loss realities + “offline” joke 09:22 — Finding the unexpected “perks” + parenting humor 11:36 — Why she resisted the cane + choosing independence 13:52 — New guide dog user story + social media reactions 16:16 — Public speaking with hearing loss: reading the room differently 18:40 — Hearing the audience for the first time (wireless mic moment) 21:00 — Speaking without notes + connecting to the audience 23:23 — “How did you start speaking?” + Toastmasters origin story 25:36 — Purposeful living: everyday “stages” and practicing presence 27:44 — Listening well: “WAIT — Why Am I Talking?” 30:02 — Coaching vs therapy (future growth vs past tracing) 32:13 — Penn’s therapy reflections + disability fatigue and motivation 34:31 — The “prove yourself” burden + redefining worth 36:48 — Work, disability, and the pressure to overperform 39:15 — “What do blind people look like?” + visibility and assumptions 41:35 — “Superpowers” and the hidden skill-building of adaptation 43:59 — Thriving vs chasing goals: becoming more alive 46:24 — Mission mindset: living on purpose (even for small errands) 48:51 — “Egg carton” storytelling: sharing safely, one “egg” at a time 51:11 — Bethany’s podcast: Step Out & Thrive + what it’s for 53:29 — Stages beyond big stages: zoom calls, talks, parenting moments 55:53 — Community impact: people change goals but feel more alive 58:17 — Snorkeling vs scuba: tools for deeper work and resilience 60:30 — Where to find Bethany + appreciation guide resource 62:52 — Closing encouragement + Aftersight resources and support group mention

1) Episode SummaryPenn and Moses kick off the new year with humor about “non-resolutions” and sore gym arms, then share why they’re planning a Mexico trip: they’re still grieving the loss of Penn’s guide dog, Beethoven, who passed on December 22, and they want something hopeful on the calendar.They talk through how vision loss changes travel—starting with the planning stage. Penn explains why location matters (walkability to food, shopping, and the ocean), why she always packs a primary cane plus a backup, and how she’s thinking about bringing new tech (smart glasses) on the trip. Moses adds his essentials—hammock and ceiling fan—and they both reflect on how Mexico has changed over the years, from sleepy villages and “shacks on the beach” to today’s more built-up destinations.A major focus is airport stress and accommodations. Penn and Moses discuss using assistance through airports (especially through TSA and confusing layouts), how different the experience can be abroad versus in the U.S., and why they don’t hesitate to ask for help. They also share a specific frustration with airline systems that charge extra to speak to a human, and they invite listeners to share travel stresses, solutions, favorite tools, and “cane debacle” stories.They wrap with practical travel habits—researching thoroughly, reading reviews for noise issues, sticking to a budget, and choosing convenience over unnecessary expenses—plus a warm note about Valentine’s Day as a chance to love people well in many kinds of relationships.2) Contact InfoAftersight Feedback: feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856 Producer: Jonathan Price, Podcast & Program Producer (Aftersight)3) Show CreditsHosts: Penn Street, Moses Street Producer: Jonathan Price Network: Aftersight4) Chapter Markers00:00 — Intro + Happy New Year banter and gym “non-resolutions”02:03 — Why travel now: grief, goals, and planning a Mexico reset04:30 — Mexico then vs. now: from sleepy villages to busy destinations06:51 — Choosing chill: Playa del Carmen plans and “penthouse” reality check09:19 — Travel prep with vision loss: canes, backup plans, and smart glasses11:45 — Old-school travel memories: hammocks, rooftops, and budget lodging14:11 — Biggest travel stress: TSA, assistance, and “using the blind card”16:35 — Airport navigation stories: Iceland maze, Denver changes, and help lanes18:56 — International contrast: being treated better abroad and smooth customs20:48 — Tools and hacks: what to pack, what helps, and what listeners should share23:11 — TSA realities: gear, clothing, and why Moses always gets searched25:37 — Booking strategy: reviews, noise warnings, and choosing walkable locations27:59 — Frontier nerves: cheap flights, upgraded seats, and expectations30:24 — Money lessons: car rentals, local transit, and researching costs32:42 — Mexico logistics: when to rent a car and how they plan movement35:07 — Show teasers: last week’s Elise + next week’s Bethany episode37:31 — Valentine’s Day reframed: gratitude, love, and closing invitation to write in

Episode SummaryElise Draper joins Penn Street and Moses Street for a candid, funny, and deeply real conversation about living with progressive vision loss—and refusing to let society set the ceiling on what’s possible.Elise shares her diagnosis (PIC), the long road through misdiagnosis, treatments, and the layered realities of chronic eye disease (including autoimmune inflammation, scarring, injections, and early-onset glaucoma). She also explains Charles Bonnet syndrome in practical terms—what it can look like, why it’s so disorienting, and why being dismissed by medical professionals can be as damaging as the symptoms themselves.The conversation moves from the darkest seasons (depression, isolation, relationships fracturing under the strain) to rebuilding: community support, independence tools like the white cane, and a mindset shift that replaces “lowered expectations” with agency. Elise then spotlights the work she’s leading through the VIMB Creatives Workshop under the umbrella of IPub Global (iPub Cloud): creating a platform for blind and low-vision creatives to publish, get feedback, build professional skills (including resumes), and raise visibility for marginalized voices.Contact InfoGuest: Elise Draper — author, publisher, freelance writer; marketing director/CMO (as discussed in the episode)Creative Platform: VIMB Creatives Workshop (Elise notes you can find it by searching “VIMB Creatives Workshop”)Spotify: “VIMB Creatives Workshop” (as named in the episode)Aftersight: Aftersight.orgGeneral contact: feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856Producer: Jonathan PriceShow CreditsHosts: Penn Street, Moses StreetGuest: Elise DraperProducer: Jonathan PriceNetwork: Aftersight (Aftersight Original Podcast)Chapter Markers00:00 — Show intro and welcome02:19 — Elise’s name origin and pen name story04:29 — Diagnosis: PIC (punctate inner choroidopathy) and current vision06:51 — Life disruption, resilience, and “switching lanes”11:03 — Early symptoms, misdiagnosis, and not being believed13:26 — Mental health impact, sleep disruption, and depression15:43 — Charles Bonnet syndrome explained (and why it gets dismissed)18:04 — When it becomes unsafe: driving, vivid visuals, and the “time” moment20:28 — Rebuilding independence: DVR support, mentors, and community25:11 — Sheltered employment, systemic ableism, and raising the bar32:28 — The white cane: stigma vs. freedom (and bruises as evidence)34:55 — VIMB Creatives Workshop: what it is and who it’s for39:30 — Submitting work, editing support, workshops, and author branding44:20 — Accessibility hurdles in marketing and practical ways forward46:43 — Elise’s recommended starting point: Free Will (2nd edition)49:06 — Favorite author influence: Octavia Butler51:28 — Wrap-up, gratitude, and Aftersight support message

1) Episode Summary Penn and Moses open with a quick New Year check-in and some light banter about January weather in Colorado, then shift into the heart of the episode: grieving the sudden loss of Penn’s guide dog, Beethoven, who passed away on December 22. They reflect on what a guide dog means as a working partner and family member, and they thank the community for the wave of condolences, cards, and memorial gifts. They also share brighter moments from the holiday break—traveling to Ouray, Colorado to spend several days with family, enjoying the hot springs, and visiting Box Canyon and its waterfall. The conversation closes with encouragement around mental health support (including therapy), staying socially connected, and a listener invitation to share New Year’s resolutions and stories with the show. 2) Contact Info Listener Email: contact@aftersight.orgProducer: Jonathan Price — Podcast & Program Producer, Aftersight3) Show CreditsShow: The Blind Chick (Aftersight Original)Hosts: Penn Street, Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan Price4) Chapter Markers00:00 — Show open00:29 — New Year check-in + Colorado weather02:51 — Remembering Beethoven and what he meant07:38 — Community support and shout-outs09:54 — Ouray family trip + Box Canyon14:33 — Mental health, therapy, and staying connected21:46 — Resolutions invite + wrap and calls-to-action

1) Episode Summary Penn and Moses kick off with a New Year check-in (less “new me,” more gratitude) and give a clear warning that the episode includes suicide. Ashley Purdy, a blind advocate and speaker, shares the trauma-filled path that led to her suicide attempt at 17, her clinical death for 17 minutes, and the long rehab that followed—including the crushing moment she realized she was blind. Over time, she reframed survival as a “rebirth,” identifying with the phoenix. The conversation also covers independence, pushing back on “over-helping,” Perkins School for the Blind, isolation and social anxiety, and Ashley’s interest in getting a guide dog. The episode ends with encouragement to speak up if someone is in crisis, plus 988 resources and the reminder that one person showing up can save a life. 2) Contact Info Guest: Ashley Purdy — Blind advocate & public speaker (no direct contact info shared in the provided transcript) Aftersight / The Blind Chick: Website mentioned on-air: aftersight.orgEmail mentioned on-air: contact@aftersite.org (spelled this way in the provided transcript; verify spelling if needed)Crisis resource mentioned on-air (US): Call/Text: 988Website: 988lifeline.orgProducer: Jonathan Price (Aftersight) 3) Show Credits Show: The Blind Chick (Aftersight Original)Hosts: Penn Street, Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan Price4) Chapter Markers (mm:ss) 00:00 — Show intro00:27 — New Year talk + listener resolutions invite02:41 — Suicide content warning + self-care note04:54 — Ashley joins; Arlington (Virginia) + opening banter07:13 — Childhood: instability, early responsibility, family dynamics09:37 — Crisis stabilization + foster care separation12:02 — Guilt, grief, and how memories can distort reality14:28 — Returning home; “kid raising kids” reality16:46 — Sexual assault at 13; reporting; court outcome19:09 — Self-harm, hospitalizations, and cumulative strain21:35 — The “tipping point” at 17; why she seemed happier23:35 — Memory gaps; what she recalls from that night25:58 — Clinically dead 17 minutes; prognosis; survival28:22 — Rehab + communication; Zootopia/DMV analogy30:48 — Not realizing blindness at first; what she perceived33:15 — “Peace” before attempt; missed warning signs35:39 — Ripple effects; urging listeners to tell someone38:04 — Ongoing hard days; starting Perkins40:04 — Perkins explained42:26 — Over-helping vs independence; soda-can moment44:40 — Finding “your people” and belonging challenges47:06 — Isolation, social anxiety, and partner support49:09 — Guide dog schools and options51:31 — Hosts on guide dog freedom + reality53:57 — Hermit habits + encouragement to get out56:16 — Dogs as daily movement + sensory joy58:36 — Ashley’s advice: know who truly shows up61:00 — Hosts reflect on non-judgment support63:25 — 988 resources + Aftersight wrap + closing encouragement

1) Episode SummaryPenn Street and Moses Street close out the year with a Christmas Day (2025) holiday check-in—reflecting on a packed season of gatherings, the weirdly warm and windy Colorado December, and why wind can be especially disorienting for blind and low-vision folks.They look back on standout 2025 guests and moments—mixing heartfelt gratitude with playful delirium from “too much sugar”. The conversation shifts into Christmas traditions and the very real tension of navigating holidays as a couple: different family backgrounds, different expectations, and a running debate about “taking turns” opening gifts.Penn and Moses also talk favorite Christmas movies (classic titles only, please), recent movies they loved, favorite Christmas songs (including an intentionally weird Tiny Tim recommendation), and the gift-giving stress Moses experiences—sharing why therapy is part of his real, practical approach to getting through the season.They close by inviting listeners to email in holiday stories (best, worst, or funniest gifts; traditions; whatever the season looked like), and they end with a simple challenge: be kind to yourself, and be kind to someone else.2) Contact InfoFeatured voices: Penn Street, Moses StreetListener email (shared on-air): feedback@aftersight.orgAftersight phone: (720) 712-8856Producer: Jonathan Price (Aftersight)3) Show CreditsShow: The Blind Chick (an Aftersight Originals podcast)Hosts: Penn Street, Moses StreetProducer: Jonathan PriceOrganization: Aftersight4) Chapter Markers00:00 — Show open and mission00:27 — Welcome back + host roll call00:41 — Holiday season chaos + Colorado wind talk03:04 — Guests of 2025 shout-outs (with jokes)05:21 — More shout-outs (Steven Vine, Shawn Cheshire)07:41 — Disaster preparedness reflections + Marty Sobo / Code Orange mention09:57 — Upcoming episode tease: Ashley Purdy on New Year’s Day11:58 — Christmas is hard for Moses; Penn is “Mother Christmas spirit”14:22 — Childhood Christmas differences + traditions16:48 — Christmas tree fights + family memories19:10 — “Taking turns” opening gifts debate21:34 — Why Moses dislikes getting gifts; joke presents23:56 — Favorite Christmas movies + holiday movie tradition26:15 — “The Housemaid” as a surprise favorite (no spoilers)28:38 — Ouray trip plans + Moses’s birthday (Jan 3)31:00 — Favorite Christmas songs (incl. Tiny Tim)33:21 — Favorite gifts + shopping together as a strategy35:41 — Gift-buying stress + holiday shopping misery (and Valentine’s Day contrast)38:08 — “One gift” simplicity + listener email call-in request40:34 — Send your holiday story to feedback@aftersight.org + closing kindness message

Penn and Moses dive headfirst into the spooky side of storytelling for this Halloween edition of The Blind Chick. Between haunted houses, eerie Estes Park encounters, and mysterious footsteps in the night, they share their most chilling (and hilarious) ghost stories — from cigarette-scented spirits to musical hammocks and haunted barns. The conversation mixes humor, disbelief, and genuine spine-tingling moments as they recall the haunted homes they’ve lived in across Colorado — and even reveal a terrifying discovery made years after they moved out. They also invite listeners worldwide, including fans from Estonia and Russia, to share their own paranormal experiences. The episode wraps with lighthearted warmth as Penn recounts a funny exchange with her grandson about “The Blind Chick” mascot, reminding us that even amid the eerie, laughter and kindness shine brightest. Contact Info Aftersight 📧 contact@aftersight.org 🌐 www.aftersight.org The Blind Chick 🎙 Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street 🎧 Producer: Jonathan Price Show Credits An Aftersight Original Podcast Produced by Jonathan Price Edited by the Aftersight Audio Team Recorded at Aftersight Studios in Colorado Music by the Aftersight Network Chapter Markers 00:00 — Welcome to The Blind Chick: Halloween Edition 02:20 — Haunted Houses and Talking Scales 04:40 — The Ghost of Blackhawk 09:25 — Footsteps in the Night 16:10 — The Ghost in the Barn 18:30 — Estes Park’s Haunted Home 23:00 — The Midnight Footsteps 27:40 — The Baker’s Ghost Revealed 30:10 — The Loveland House and the Tree 32:35 — The Final Move and the Evil Ghost 39:35 — The Garage Discovery 42:00 — Ghost Stories from Around the World 43:45 — White Cane Day and the “Blind Chick” Story 44:20 — Closing Thoughts and Halloween Wishes

Penn and Moses welcome filmmaker, author, and policy expert Day Al-Mohamed. She shares her blindness story, trauma and recovery, and a practical view of advocacy from campus to Congress to the White House. The conversation covers ADA pressures, why state-level action matters, AI bias and disability, fencing as a confidence lab, and the power of authentic media (“Renegades” on PBS). Day closes with steady counsel for hard seasons: it will be okay—because we plan, support each other, and figure it out. Contact Info Guest — Day Al-Mohamed Website: dayalmohamed.com Books/Film: The Labyrinth Archivist; Renegades (PBS) Aftersight Web: aftersight.org Phone: (720) 712-8856 Email: feedback@aftersight.org Producer Jonathan Price, Podcast & Program Producer, Aftersight — jonathan@aftersight.org Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street, Moses Street Guest: Day Al-Mohamed — filmmaker, author, disability policy leader Producer: Jonathan Price An Aftersight Original Chapter Markers 00:00 — Cold open + show intro 00:28 — Cabin banter and Halloween setup 02:49 — Guest intro: policy, filmmaking, and advocacy 05:10 — Blindness origin and the “first question” problem 09:00 — Trauma, community, and rebuilding life 11:27 — From social work to law: rules that actually work 13:51 — Fencing and refusing limits 18:20 — First steps in policy and data-driven advocacy 20:43 — Statehouse internship to Capitol Hill 24:37 — ADA, regs, and where erosion happens 26:58 — What to do now: act local, build state protections 31:43 — How real constituents move votes 36:20 — AI bias, oversight, and disability truth 41:01 — Why stories change policy: books and film 45:46 — “Renegades” and disability history without inspiration porn 50:19 — What’s next: season two hopes and the blind detective 52:44 — The White House guide dog story 55:08 — What I’d whisper then, what I’d shout now 57:18 — Where to find Day + closing and Aftersight CTA

In this heartfelt and often humorous episode of The Blind Chick, hosts Penn and Moses Street open up about one of the most defining moments of their lives — Penn’s decision to get sober on October 9, 1987, and how that choice led to their lifelong partnership. The pair recounts the story of how a photography session meant to help teenage girls find confidence ended up transforming Penn’s life, sparking her sobriety journey and ultimately bringing the two together. From addiction and recovery to photography, love, and laughter, this episode dives deep into what it means to rebuild your life from the ground up. Penn and Moses share the struggles, the therapy, the humor, and the enduring gratitude that have carried them through 38 years of marriage, recovery, and shared purpose. It’s a story of second chances, unconditional love, and the courage to see yourself — and others — through a new lens. Contact Info Guests / Hosts: Penn & Moses Street — Hosts, The Blind Chick Podcast Organization: Aftersight — Empowering the blind and low-vision community through accessible audio content. 📧 feedback@aftersight.org 🌐 aftersight.org 📞 (720) 712-8856 Producer: Jonathan Price, Podcast & Program Producer — Aftersight Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Producer: Jonathan Price Editing & Mixing: Jonathan Price Presented by: Aftersight — Where Blindness Meets Insight Chapter Markers 00:00 — Opening and Technical Glitches 02:20 — Why October 9th Matters 04:42 — The Photography Project That Changed Everything 09:24 — Penn’s Struggle with Self-Image 16:33 — A Baby, a Realization, and Sobriety 21:21 — From Pain to Purpose 26:06 — Falling in Love with Two Little Girls 30:48 — Rehab and Redemption 35:02 — Marriage, Therapy, and Healing 39:29 — Gratitude, Growth, and The Blind Chick Legacy 41:50 — Turning Your Partner Into a Muse

In part two of our conversation with adventurer and founder of Blind Pilots, Scott Garrison, we dive deeper into his remarkable journeys across the globe. Scott shares his upcoming expeditions in Costa Rica, Uganda, and Tanzania, and reflects on the unique sensory experiences of trekking volcanoes and rainforests as a blind traveler. He, Penn and Moses discuss the challenges of navigating trails like the Inca Trail, the importance of trustworthy guides, and the freedom of having independent experiences alongside loved ones. Scott also recounts his intense Kilimanjaro summit attempt, where trust, teamwork, and survival came together in unforgettable ways. This episode is about resilience, trust, and the power of shared adventure in the blind travel community. Contact Info Guest: Scott Garrison — Founder of Blind Pilots Website: blindpilots.org Email: scott@blindpilots.org Facebook: Scott Garrison (personal) + Blind Pilots page Aftersight Website: aftersight.org Phone: (720) 712-8856 Email: feedback@aftersight.org Producer: Jonathan Price, Podcast & Program Producer at Aftersight Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Guest: Scott Garrison Producer: Jonathan Price An Aftersight Original Podcast Chapter Markers 00:00 — Intro and recap with Scott 02:00 — Upcoming treks: Costa Rica, Uganda, and Tanzania 04:30 — Independence in travel as a blind couple 06:40 — Volcano hikes and sensory experiences 09:00 — The Inca Trail challenge and dangers 13:40 — Fitness requirements for adventure trips 16:10 — Discovering Aftersight and the Audio Trekkers hike 18:30 — Hiking with blind and low-vision groups 20:50 — Trust and safety in adventure travel 23:00 — Kilimanjaro climb and emergency evacuation 25:30 — How to connect with Blind Pilots 27:50 — Shoutout to Awarewolf Gear and Blind Travel Summit 29:00 — Closing thanks and Aftersight donation reminder

In this episode of The Blind Chick, hosts Penn and Moses welcome Scott Garrison, a world traveler and founder of Blind Pilots, who joined Aftersight’s Audio Trekkers Hike all the way from Guatemala. Scott shares his journey from being diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa at 19 to becoming an adventurer who refuses to let blindness limit his independence. Scott recalls early hints of vision loss, his time as a 15-year-old exchange student in Australia, and his years of living abroad in Prague. He describes the challenges of returning years later with less vision, including resisting the white cane until a friend’s tough love changed his perspective. The conversation turns to the creation of Blind Pilots—a program designed to make international travel accessible and empowering for blind and low-vision individuals. Scott explains how the program blends cultural immersion, local history, tactile activities, and well-trained sighted guides, all to ensure efficiency, independence, and memorable experiences. From luxury picnics on lava fields to adaptive skiing in Colorado, Blind Pilots aims to transform the way blind travelers explore the world. This episode is equal parts adventurous, raw, and practical, showing how resilience, creativity, and community can turn vision loss into a gateway for new horizons. Contact Info Guest: Scott Garrison — Blind Pilots Website: blindpilots.org Aftersight: feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856 | aftersight.org Producer: Jonathan Price, Aftersight Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Guest: Scott Garrison Produced by Jonathan Price for Aftersight Chapter Markers 00:00 — Intro and welcome back 00:27 — Audio Trekkers Hike recap 02:43 — Scott’s diagnosis with RP 05:05 — Early signs and struggles in sports 06:24 — Travel bug ignited in Australia 08:47 — Life and independence in Prague 11:00 — Camino de Santiago and challenges with independence 13:19 — The cane debate and acceptance 17:21 — Adventures, mishaps, and humor 19:51 — The birth of Blind Pilots 22:08 — Designing accessible cultural adventures 24:31 — Integrating history, food, and tactile experiences 26:47 — Training guides and preparing safe trips 29:11 — Looking ahead with Blind Pilots

Penn and Moses welcome David Redmond from Vision Ireland for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about accessibility in everyday life—from airports and public transit to the awkward magic of speed dating. David shares how he navigates disclosure on dating apps, why voice and character matter more than looks, and how Ireland’s implementation of the European Accessibility Act is already nudging banks, apps, and services toward better design. The trio contrasts EU momentum with current U.S. headwinds around the ADA, then zooms out: universal design lifts everyone, and today’s tech (including AI) is expanding what’s possible for blind and low-vision folks—yes, even flying and autonomous vehicles. Quick updates include Aftersight’s Code Orange launch and details for the Sept 13 Boulder hike. Contact Info Guest — David Redmond / Vision Ireland: vi.ie • Podcast: Talking Technology with VI Aftersight: feedback@aftersight.org • (720) 712-8856 • aftersight.org Producer: Jonathan Price Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Show Credits A production of Aftersight. Host: Penn Street • Co-Host: Moses Street Guest: David Redmond (Vision Ireland) Producer: Jonathan Price Chapter Markers 00:00 — Show open & welcome 00:35 — Producer update: Code Orange + Sept 13 hike 02:22 — Travel abroad: airports, transit, and accessibility 04:41 — Dating apps: to disclose or not? 06:58 — Speed dating made accessible 09:25 — When disclosure lands… or doesn’t 11:47 — First impressions, voices, and character 14:07 — What makes a voice attractive 16:31 — Ireland’s European Accessibility Act goes live 18:52 — U.S. ADA worries and cultural whiplash 21:12 — Global ripple effects & corporate compliance 23:21 — “Blind people can do anything” — new frontiers 25:40 — Public-service mindset: why shows like this matter 28:01 — CTAs: hike details, how to connect with Aftersight

In this episode of The Blind Chick, hosts Penn and Moses Street welcome special guest David Redmond from Vision Ireland. David shares his personal story growing up with congenital glaucoma and other vision conditions in Cork, Ireland, and how his journey led him into the world of accessible technology and media. He opens up about the challenges of vision loss, the role of assistive technology like JAWS, ZoomText, and VoiceOver, and how his career path shifted from mainstream radio to producing podcasts and tech content for Vision Ireland. The conversation explores similarities and differences between Ireland and the United States when it comes to employment challenges, accessibility, and available resources for blind and low-vision individuals. David also highlights the mission of Vision Ireland as a one-stop shop for support, advocacy, and technology training, while sharing his own perspective on building community and friendships within the blind community. Listeners are reminded about Aftersight’s upcoming Accessible Hike in Boulder, Colorado on September 13th, and encouraged to register for a day of inclusion, support, and adventure in the mountains. Contact Info Guest: David Redmond, Vision Ireland Website: https://www.visionireland.ie Aftersight Phone: (720) 712-8856 Email: feedback@aftersight.org Website: https://aftersight.org Producer: Jonathan Price, Aftersight Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Guest: David Redmond (Vision Ireland) Producer: Jonathan Price, Aftersight Chapter Markers 00:00 — Intro & banter with Penn, Moses, and Jonathan 02:01 — Aftersight Accessible Hike announcement (Sept. 13) 03:00 — Meet David Redmond: growing up in Cork, Ireland 04:15 — Navigating school with glaucoma and assistive tech 06:36 — Facing fears and preparing for possible vision loss 08:53 — Everyday independence vs. acting “more blind” in new settings 10:20 — From media studies to Vision Ireland 13:19 — Talking Technology: podcasts, newsletters, and advocacy 15:43 — Employment struggles and accessibility barriers 18:04 — Vision Ireland’s “one stop shop” of services 20:23 — Building friendships through camps and blind community events 22:42 — Differences between U.S. and Ireland’s blindness services 25:01 — Rebranding from NCBI to Vision Ireland 27:16 — Outro & preview of Part 2 with David Redmond

In this third and final part of Shawn Cheshire’s powerful conversation, she takes us deeper into her story of resilience, adventure, and relentless courage. From navigating hostile ignorance at a hotel to recounting her harrowing cross-country bike ride along the Continental Divide, Shawn shares how she transforms personal grief into legacy-building triumphs. She speaks candidly about shattering misconceptions of blindness, training for the Wonderland Trail, and her mission to expand possibilities for the blind and low-vision community. With raw honesty, humor, and fire, Shawn makes it clear—blindness isn’t a limitation, it’s a superpower. Contact Info Shawn Cheshire / Choosing to See Foundation: choosingtosee.org Film Website: blindasfuck.com Aftersight: feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856 | aftersight.org Producer: Jonathan Price Show Credits Host: Penn & Moses Street Guest: Shawn Cheshire Producer: Jonathan Price An Aftersight Original Podcast Chapter Markers 00:00 – Intro & Content Warning 01:20 – Hotel confrontation & misconceptions of blindness 04:25 – Jonathan shares his biking trauma 06:49 – What kept Shawn on the bike through falls and setbacks 09:13 – Blindness as a superpower 11:34 – Film festivals & Sedona Dave connection 13:54 – Impact screenings & conversational advocacy 16:16 – Crossing the Grand Canyon solo 20:51 – Tour Divide: Canada to Mexico ride 23:09 – Lessons with guides & being called a pioneer 25:30 – Staying out of the black hole of grief 27:34 – Aftersight Hike reminder & closing

In part two of this powerful conversation, Penn and Moses continue their interview with Shawn Cheshire. Shawn opens up about the devastating year that changed her life: a traumatic brain injury, sudden vision loss, and the painful custody battle that separated her from her child. She shares how therapy became a lifeline, the moment of brutal honesty she had with herself in a shower, and the resilience that carried her into adaptive sports and eventually the Paralympics. The discussion digs into stigma—both from the general public and within disability communities—and the surprising challenges Shawn faced as an elite blind athlete. With raw honesty and unfiltered courage, Shawn reflects on the choices that shaped her journey, the discipline forged through trauma, and the deep healing that comes from therapy and community. This is a conversation about pain, perseverance, and transformation. Shawn’s story reminds us that identity isn’t something we inherit—it’s something we choose and fight for. Contact Info Aftersight: aftersight.org | feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856 Show Credits Hosts: Penn & Moses Street Guest: Shawn Cheshire Producer: Jonathan Price An Aftersight Original Podcast Chapter Markers 00:00 — Intro & Hike Reminder 02:20 — Injury, Vision Loss & Custody Battle 04:44 — Returning to Work & Identity as a Paramedic 07:09 — Therapy, Night Terrors & Trauma 09:24 — The Shower Aha Moment 11:42 — Choices, Consequences & Growth 14:03 — Therapy as Practice, Not Stigma 16:25 — Trauma Defined & No Comparisons 18:46 — Discovering Cycling & Training Resilience 21:14 — Stigma & Bias in the Paralympics 23:34 — Accusations of “Not Really Blind” 25:26 — Embracing Identity & Handling Judgment 27:00 — Wrap-Up & Teaser for Part 3

In Part 1 of our bold and moving conversation with Shawn Cheshire, Penn and Moses explore her remarkable journey from a difficult childhood in South Texas to breaking barriers as one of the first women in her Army specialty, and later serving as an EMT and paramedic. Shawn shares with raw honesty about growing up without love or nurture, surviving abuse, and how the voice of her grandmother’s encouragement shaped her resilience. She recounts her military service as a helicopter armament systems mechanic, the challenges of proving herself in a male-dominated field, and her transition into emergency medical services. The episode builds toward the life-changing on-the-job brain injury that left her blind, as Shawn reflects on the events, traumas, and triumphs that shaped her into the unstoppable athlete and advocate she is today. This is a gripping start to a story you will not forget. Contact Info Guest: Shawn Cheshire — https://www.shawncheshire.org/ Aftersight: feedback@aftersight.org | (720) 712-8856 | aftersight.org/podcast Producer: Jonathan Price: Jonathan@aftersight.org Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Producer: Jonathan Price Executive Producer: Aftersight Recorded for: The Blind Chick — An Aftersight Original Podcast Chapter Markers 00:00 — Introduction & Content Warning 02:14 — Why "Blind AF" and the Power of Shawn’s Story 03:15 — Childhood in South Texas & Early Trauma 06:40 — Joining the Army at 17 to Escape 08:20 — Breaking Barriers as a Female Helicopter Armament Mechanic 11:23 — Injuries, Discharge, and Moving Forward 13:47 — Surviving Abuse & Planning an Escape 16:10 — The Grandmother’s Voice That Saved Her 18:32 — EMT Training and Leaving in the Middle of the Night 20:49 — Life as a Paramedic & Finding Purpose 22:53 — The Accident That Changed Everything 25:19 — Diagnosis, Vision Loss, and the Long Road of Recovery 27:15 — Closing & Preview of Part 2

Penn and Moses sit down with Spirit Club founder Jared Ciner to unpack a trauma-informed, strengths-based approach to fitness for the blind and low-vision community. Jared shares Michael’s step-by-step journey from “not for me” to thriving in group classes—proof that small wins compound. They discuss functional movement you can do anywhere (no fancy gear required), how partnerships with agencies like Aftersight expand access, and Spirit Club’s new Denver hub launching in-person programs by September. Jared also previews an NIH-supported expansion for brain-injury-friendly content and encourages “exercise snacks”—quick bursts that boost mood and momentum. Listeners get a discount with promo code AFTERSIGHT at checkout. Plus: details on Aftersight’s fully accessible Audio Trekkers Hike on September 13 in Boulder. Contact Info Spirit Club Website: spiritclub.com (virtual & in-person programs; certification coming soon) Promo code: AFTERSIGHT (discount at checkout) Aftersight Website: aftersight.org/hike (Audio Trekkers Hike info) • aftersight.org General inquiries / guests: feedback@aftersight.org • (720) 712-8856 Show Credits Hosts: Penn Street & Moses Street Producer: Jonathan Price Chapter Markers 00:00 — Cold open, Part 2 setup, Spirit Club promo + hike tease 02:21 — Michael’s story: from “nope” to group classes and front-desk greeter 04:44 — Trauma-informed, strengths-based coaching vs. drill-sergeant fitness 07:08 — Adaptive equipment? Start with bodyweight and real-life movements 09:30 — Breaking down “get up from the floor” into four learnable steps 11:56 — Garden squats, standing desks, and building everyday endurance 14:19 — Partnering with agencies; how orgs stream Spirit Club to members 16:41 — Advocacy: Spirit Club Foundation, funding access, pro certification 19:03 — Join the movement; Denver hub launches in-person by September 21:27 — “Everybody can move”: mood, support, and 100% progress stories 23:51 — Penn’s dance class win; connecting mental and physical health 26:12 — “Exercise snacks”: five-minute bursts that change your day 28:34 — Call-to-action: try Spirit Club, use AFTERSIGHT, and join the Sept 13 hike in Boulder

In this lively and heartfelt episode of The Blind Chick, Penn and Moses recap their recent blindfolded cornhole tournament, sharing laughs, insights, and the importance of focus in blind navigation. Their conversation segues beautifully into the main interview with Jared Ciner, founder of Spirit Club, a fitness organization on a mission to make physical health accessible and inclusive for all people, regardless of ability. Jared shares the personal and professional journey that led him to create Spirit Club, a revolutionary platform that offers both live and on-demand fitness classes designed with accessibility at their core. He discusses the human right to fitness, building confidence through adaptive movement, and why taking up space—physically and socially—is an act of empowerment. Penn shares her own experiences with Spirit Club, explaining how it has not only helped her stay active but also helped her build confidence in moving freely as a person with vision loss. Jared also dives into Spirit Club’s group exercise experience, technology innovations, community impact, and the belief that fitness is not a privilege—it’s a right. 🔗 Contact Information: Guest: Jared Ciner Website: https://spirit-club.org Aftersight Contact: 📧 feedback@aftersight.org 📞 (720) 712-8856 🌐 https://aftersight.org 🎟️ Register for the September 13 Audio Trekkers Hike: https://aftersight.org/hike 🎧 Listen to more episodes: https://aftersight.org/podcasts/the-blind-chick ⏱️ Chapter Markers: 00:00 – Welcome to The Blind Chick + Cornhole recap 02:10 – Sound, focus, and how blind folks dominated the game 04:30 – Why blind folks listen better (and win more) 06:55 – Introducing Jared Ciner and Spirit Club 08:50 – Jared’s story: Psychology, fitness, and a missing link 11:15 – Building an accessible fitness platform from scratch 13:45 – What “inclusive fitness” actually looks like 16:20 – Online classes, group sessions, and on-demand options 18:30 – Penn’s personal story: building confidence through movement 21:00 – Creating authentic connection through live-class recording 22:45 – The mission: Fitness is a human right 24:30 – Taking up space, building confidence, and pushing back against shame 26:00 – Final thoughts + Promo for Spirit Club and Aftersight Hike

🔍 Episode Summary & Show Notes: In this empowering follow-up conversation, The Blind Chick welcomes back Neva Fairchild for Part 2 of her inspiring story. Neva, an advocate, educator, entrepreneur, and unapologetic braille and cane enthusiast, shares practical tools and wisdom for navigating life with vision loss. From mastering WayAround tags for labeling appliances and tracking repair history, to embracing the white cane as a tool of confidence, this episode dives deep into the intersection of tech, identity, and independence. Penn and Moses keep it real and lighthearted while tackling serious topics like shame, stigma, and self-worth — reminding us all that blindness is not a character flaw. Neva also shares insights about: Her business Experts on Blindness and work as an expert witness in legal cases Her late-in-life discovery of braille and passion for braille literacy Her advocacy for older adults who are newly blind and feel trapped in their homes The myth that using a cane makes you vulnerable — and why it actually empowers you to walk confidently Real-life humor about travel, crowds, and how blind folks get the best concert seats! This conversation will move you, challenge you, and most of all — encourage you to embrace the tools that bring freedom. 🎧 Don’t miss this bold, funny, and refreshingly honest episode. 🔖 Chapter Markers 00:00 — Intro & Hike Announcement 01:23 — How WayAround Tags Work 03:57 — Appliance Tagging & Memory Tools 06:45 — Buying Tags & App Walkthrough 08:00 — Tech Neva Uses Every Day 09:15 — Experts on Blindness & Legal Education 10:35 — Braille Advocacy & Late Learners 13:00 — Fighting the Stigma of the White Cane 15:00 — Neva’s “Aha” Moment in the Woods 18:00 — Confidence vs. Vulnerability with the Cane 21:00 — Crowds, Airports & Humor 23:00 — Where to Find Neva & Final Thoughts 25:00 — Audio Trekkers Hike Info & Closing 🔗 Resources & Contact 📍 WayAround Website: https://www.wayaround.com 🔗 Neva Fairchild on LinkedIn – The only one by that name! 🗓️ Register for the Audio Trekkers Hike (Sept 17): aftersight.org/hike 📧 Feedback & Questions: feedback@aftersight.org 📞 Listener Line: 720-712-8856 🌐 Discover more Aftersight Originals: aftersight.org